I am 14 and play Shooting games with blood and gore all over... yet I have NEVER had the thought of going into a school and firing cause I saw it on a game, or any other reason.

These fags who bomb or shoot in schools are getting the gay bitches who are "family counslers" who have no kids saying that games such as Aliens vs. Predator 2 prevoke these actions. I can't even go into a store and buy a game with a rating of 17+ without my parents with me anymore.

These fag kids who are bomb threating and school shooting are just rejected UGLY inbreed weeners who hate their own lives right? Or they need to be placed into a real home, although even if you are living with the worst parents ever its NO excuse, they think it is.

I even have a site about avp2... iNside - Aliens vs. Predator 2

What do you think????

[ This message was edited by: DS_Blade on 2002-04-20 01:49 ]

You're totally right. The "people who know" say that a large percentage of school shooters regularly play shooters on their computer/console. Perhaps it hasn't occured to them, but the games they play are probably a way of VENTING their aggression, and allowing them to play the games more often would probably help prevent such massacres.



Kids are often screwed up because they have terrible parents, or are outcasts at school. It's the way they get treated. It's funny that the last people blamed seem to be the parents.

what about the Germans and their [pathetic] attempts at making blood in games GREEN????

i guess they are still frightened of a new world war so they will do their best to stop provoking another one by making things fake..

in the 60's parents and their pathetic "self defence associations" tried blaming everything on rock and roll....

so, nothings changed.



Morons will always kill people and families of morons will always blame something for their inability to bring up and control their OWN kids.

I really don't see how a game can affect a person to go and shoot up the school. This reminds me of a story one of my teacher told us while in Bible studies about when the movie Superman (or was it Batman) came out there was all these children you thought they could fly most of then didn't break any bones.

The only way that I think a computer game can effect someone is if that person has a really poor grasp of the line between reality and fiction and think the whole world is one big shoot 'em up but I don't think anyone (ok most people) are that stupid.

Oh and one more thing SA might have high crime rates and a poor economy but at least I can buy a game like AvP2 alone even if I am a little to young to be playing it.

I know... in the US you can't even go to American Pie when your under 21 years old and don't have someone who is 21 years old with you.... i mean... god.. in the netherlands you can go to hannibal when your 6 if you want to...

Yes, I think Americans are more sensitive about what their children are exposed to then most other countries around the world that would explain the lack of bad language in most American music videos.

although... I gotta admit that I heard of stories told by psychiatrists and counsellors who talked to kids that butchered [not KILLED] their pets or other animals and the kids in their defence said:

"but in the cartoons the animal always gets up and walks away..."



makes U think, don't it??

True demigod, but it's another pathetic excuse. Last month a woman in Michigan drowned all her kids in the family bathtub and then said she was "Mentally Unstable". If she was unstable then she should have been put somewhere and her dumbass husband shouldn't have let her stay alone.

These kind of poeple is why we would never be able to use cloaking devices in public because those fags would go killing poeple unseen.

They are just excuses and they think'll work. Anyone who kills no matter what the reason, even if they were unstable it is most likely them who got there themselves.

Whilst I agree with the main thrust of this, has their been any studies that show the people involved on school shootings and bomb threats are in fact homosexual?

Even if it all these studies did prove that violent video games/shows do influence and/or inspire kids to perform acts of destruction or violence, so what? The biggest influence in a childs life should be their parents, not a video game or TV show.

Were I a parent I would be more worried about pop starts like Britney Spears and boy-bands like N-Sync and other such slush encouraging sexual activity in an audience that for the most hasn't even hit puberty. Once again though, it's the responsibility of the parents to determine what is or isn't appropriate material for their kids.

[ This message was edited by: dvVIII on 2002-04-22 12:58 ]

but the problem is that today's parents are last generation's abandoned/forgotten children themselves....

Bit of a generalisation there Demi. I'm a parent and don't feel the slightest bit abandoned or forgotten. Maybe it's different in the States, I don't know.



Yes the biggest influence on a child should be the parents and while I loathe the likes of Britney and N*Stync, they're really just commercial disposable garbage pumped out to sell soft drinks or whatever the endorsement of the week is. If my daughter realises this when she's old enough to listen to this stuff, I don't care whether she likes it or not.



It's similar with computer games. I've been playing computer games for 20 years and don't have the urge to go out and kill anyone (not today anyway ). And there are millions (AND MILLIONS) of people just like me. If you play a computer game then feel the urge to go to the top of a clock tower, then there was something desperately wrong upstairs to begin with.



And what's more computer games aren't that much different from Britney or N*Suck. It's all different types of commercial entertainment - the difference being the aforementioned 'music' sucks and AvP doesn't.

You must remember that the morons doing the actual violence are usually simpletons or emotionally-challenged, thus our conventional theories and logic cannot even BEGIN to apply to their mindsets

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These fags who bomb or shoot in schools are getting the gay bitches who are "family counslers" who have no kids saying that games such as Aliens vs. Predator 2 prevoke these actions. I can't even go into a store and buy a game with a rating of 17+ without my parents with me anymore. These fag kids who are bomb threating and school shooting are just rejected UGLY inbreed weeners who hate their own lives right?

SM's unnoticed post is a pretty big point here (i think anyway), which asked:

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Whilst I agree with the main thrust of this, has their been any studies that show the people involved on school shootings and bomb threats are in fact homosexual?

The language used in that first quote is totally unneccesary (sp?). That is a completely racist comment and, although i am not homosexual, i think anyone who is reading that would be shocked. If this is an intelligent discussion between literate people, that kind of content is unneeded.

Secondly, you can't go into a shop and buy a 17+ game? I think those rating were put on there for a reason, and after games such as GTA and Soldier of Fortune were released, those ratings have been enforced much more. You (techincally) shouldn't be playing games for those age groups when you are under age. I'm not saying that i am a goody-goody or anything, i've had my fair share of gun-fuelled car-jackings on GTA2, but the point is still valid.

Also, anyone seen the SOF2 screenies. They're quite sick, people lying on the ground screaming at you to help them, grabbing for you with bloodied hands. Its going a bit far. However, i think this could go totally the other way. What if young people play this and think 'My God, look how much pain he's in', and as such would infact NOT hurt someone because they realised exactly what will happen.

Thanks for noticing DLSBlade. I figured no one cared about that sort of sexist language, so I didn't bother pursuing it.

repressed seuality of ANY sort could be seen as a major cause of most psychotic behaviours...

I have never felt like killing anyone harming them and I listen to Slipknot all the time watch movies filled with blood and gore and play games with the something in them and hell I watch Aliens when I was something like 9 and I think I am mostly ok mentally.

So if someone feels like going on a school shoot out they where crazy to start with and only blame games for their actions to get a lighter punishment.

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repressed seuality of ANY sort could be seen as a major cause of most psychotic behaviours...

"could be" or "is"?