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Viray
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 Posted on: 2004-08-16 11:36
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I caught some mistakes on the movie but all in all it was pretty good.
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Prezes
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 Posted on: 2004-08-16 11:45
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I know it come out in the US cinemas last weekend.
For those of us in the rest of the world we will have to wait. It doesn't hit UK screens until October. 
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hardkoreUSMC
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Posted on: 2004-08-16 12:50
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The movies of Aliens and the Predator series have nothing at all to do with the books.
Each are a stand alone, seperate world. The movie industry does not consult Dark horse OR Steven and Stephanie Perry about their writings.
Also several members of this network live in countries where AvP has not yet been released to theatres. It is appreciated by most that we not SPOIL the movie for those who have not yet seen it.
I went, and dragged a friend who is some what familiar with the books and stuff. And he loved it.!! 
A a movie, with Aliens and Predators.. Xenos and Yautja to us who are the hard corp ( no pun intended my Marine friend), it is a good movie.
You must ignore what you know about Yautja society, this is a movie.. Just sit back and relax.
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I agree, if you even expect to find much similarities in the book and movie, you will be dissapointed simply becuase they are different. Yeah, a little fact here and there may pop up and have similar things to the novels, but if you think the movie is going to have any serious info that the novels provide, then you are seriously mistaking.
@Specter
I have been known for a short fuse....but I will say this as diplomatically as i can; so if I piss you off, it was not intended.
I also agree with my Yautja buddy in saying that you should not spoil the movie for people that are still anxiously awaiting to see it. If I was waiting to see it, and you spoiled it for me, you could expect MANY upon MANY posts to be heated.
Just be more courtious next time. OK 
Oooorrraahhhhh
Semper Fi, Rock On
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TIKI
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Posted on: 2004-08-16 15:07
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Damn good that i dint read the post!!
Anyways welcome to the site!!
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Nuthouse_Escapee
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Posted on: 2004-08-16 16:24
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This is a little late, but...
@ Kore:
Chainsword > Chainsaw
Eviscerator > Chainsword, though O.o
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SirYawnalot
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Posted on: 2004-08-16 19:52
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| | The only thing that preturbed me was in the novelization written by Alan Dean Foster.. he used the markings for the clan members from the Steven Perry novel. They did not use that symbol in the movie...I wish Alan had used the movie symbol so it did not seem to be a total cheap knock off of the Steven Perry book. |
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I think Alan Dean Foster actually writes his novelisations based on the movie scripts rather than the actual movies (there's quite a large body of evidence for this in some of his earlier novelisations), so it's more likely that the Predators had these markings in one of the movie's script drafts.
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Da'Yeyinde
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 Posted on: 2004-08-16 23:01
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I have not seen any of the scripts, so the only points of reference were the previous AvP books and the novelisation.
Thanks for letting us know about that!!!
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Specter
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Posted on: 2004-08-17 17:08
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No duh there stand alone projects but please if your gonna rip something from someone elses ard work do it right they Ripped a lot of steven parry's work and put it to shame. I dont go around stealing ideas from people and shredding them in front of the public... dont et me wrong the movie i liked enugh to see again becuase the ancient civilazation idea is amazing but all the alien/predetor books/movies i have ever seen build upon eachother they dont controdict eachother... The worst part is though I have read all the rejected scripts for this movie and there were at least two that were head and shoulders above the rest so to see that they chose a worse one just bummed me out.
Not to get you guys mad but I really think if you had read the other scripts you would be really disapointed in what they finally decided on....
And for the record in the predator movies the blooded predetors do follow al the codes of conduct fond in the books and the alien movies obviosly the books followed but the books expanded upon idea made in the movies such as the queens dram sequence that gets people to come to her. so to give the excuse that avp has nothing to live up to is kind of rediculous dont you think?
I also removed my las post those of you who this is ment for know what it said and at your request its gone
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hardkoreUSMC
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Posted on: 2004-08-20 18:18
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I also removed my las post those of you who this is ment for know what it said and at your request its gone |
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Alright man, thank you for being considerate.
We respect your opinion, as you are entitled to one here. You may disagree with everything we say, but as long as you are still show respect, it is all good. 
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Robert_Wren
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 Posted on: 2004-08-20 18:37
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We (in Japan) need to wait as well. But my friend ripped it off the internet and we watched it. It seemed OK> but it said Rated R here. PG-13 my giant white butt!
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SirYawnalot
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Posted on: 2004-08-20 20:19
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| | ...but all the alien/predetor books/movies i have ever seen build upon eachother they dont controdict eachother... |
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Ahem?
#1: First and foremost, Alien Resurrection contradicts pretty much every single book, comic and game in the franchise.
#2: In Aliens, the xenos can be taken out with a couple of pistol shots, yet in all the Steve Perry books it's claimed that the alien carapace is almost diamond hard.
#3: Alien clearly shows that aliens are highly intelligent, yet according to Steve Perry the average drone as about as smart as a dog, and that the Queens are the only smart ones.
#4: Loads of the comics and books clash with each other, particularly in terms of timeframe. For example, from what I remember of the Aliens vs Predator books I've read (Prey and Hunter's Planet), in the first book nobody's ever heard of aliens before. In the second (which takes place two years later if I remember correctly), it appears that not only are they a household name, but that the Alien/Earth war appears to be over and Earth is being reclaimed. A couple of the characters in it are even supposed to have been fighting aliens most of their lives. There are also loads of conflicts regarding Royal Jelly/Fire/Xeno-Zip, Grant Corporation, and the timeline in general.
#5: Many, many more can be found at the excellent Alien Universe Timeline's Banned Histories page.
Every seperate part of the Alien and Predator franchises should seen as just that- seperate. Therefore while the books and games are BASED on the movies existing at the time, each operates in its own canon. The books have no relation to the games or to films that are made after they're written, for example.
I would probably have a response to the rest of the post but I found it rather hard to follow.
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TIKI
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 Posted on: 2004-08-22 10:11
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Robert_Wren
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Posted on: 2004-08-22 15:03
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Hey Yawn what if time frames did not pertain to this...
Human could have terraformed millions of galaxies by now and news of a new species may take years...even decades to reach the nearest civilization.
Not to mention that most scientific proof is unclausible and that it may just be accused as paraniod delusions or an urban myth at best.
Most of the time if you see something that no one has ever seen before you may be sent to the local therapist and called mentally ill.
Not to mention..think of the different ways of evolution. If the cosmos was just one big blob once maybe Xenomorph was the first form of simple life. Because the universe expanded since that 5 billion years they may have evolved differently thanks to their enviroments. In Perrys books maybe they evolved in a hostile climate while the others had a preferablly stable enviroment and did not need those defences.
Sorry about the ranting. Had to clear that up.
((PS- Not to anger anyone but Yautja at the curren time are impossible.))
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SirYawnalot
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Posted on: 2004-08-22 16:00
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In Prey, Doc Revna looked up the xenomorphs on an online biology database, and considering that pretty much as soon as they became public knowledge they took over Earth(according to the books and the comics), he wouldn't have had any trouble finding it and realising what was about to happen on Ryushi. The timeframe is totally screwy...
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Nuthouse_Escapee
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Posted on: 2004-08-23 14:08
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Well, it's sci-fi. What do you expect? 
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Azeroth
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Posted on: 2004-08-24 16:45
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And its also a story. Stories aren't bound by the limitations of real life. If the writer wants the rain to be made of coffe, it can be made of coffe. Its their story to tell ... they can whatever they want.
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TIKI
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Posted on: 2004-08-25 12:07
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Ok the movie theather replyed to my letter. It will be in the theaters at 28 October. Bah to that there so much time.
I decided to download the movie!
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TheBlackCat
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Posted on: 2004-08-25 23:58
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Well the novels, except for Hunter's Planet, are based directly on the comics. So the movie is really ripping off the comics, not the novels, and it does so big time. Besides the obvious pred culture rip-offs, the very end is really reminiscent of the ending of a very good (IMO) pred comic which I won't name now.
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Cliff
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Posted on: 2004-08-29 05:54
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I don't thinks it's out yet here in South Africa, but at least some of your posts have put me a little at ease, I almost thought that the AvP movie would be completely horrible, and bring a end to the AvP movie franchise.
Anyway the problem is that AvP has three franchises 1) Games 2) movies 3) comics, and that they have little to do with each other. The problem comes in with the comics that there isn't a single person making all the comics, so one creator doesn't really know all the small details of all the other comics or novels. So they randomly put the story in a time that is relatively right.
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Prezes
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 Posted on: 2004-11-14 08:14
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With the emotions for the movie now having somewhat died down, I would like to ask a few questions.....
If the people who built the pyramid working on metric time, how come the processes run on non-metric time.
The walls moved every 10 mintues, right. Just because one says it's 10 minutes, it does not make the delay metric. Each minute is STILL NON-METRIC, it is made up of 60 seconds.
Also, the timing of the arrival of the hunter, just because its the 10th day of the 10th month, it does not make the calendar system metrix. It was still 10th of October.
The year is still 365 days long, split into 12 months, 28-31 days per month.Each day 24 hours, long, each hour 60 min long, each hour 60 seconds long.....
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