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TheBlackCat
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 Posted on: 2002-10-03 00:13
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In predator, something brought down the helicopter with the CIA guys in it and killed the pilot. Schaefer's team seemed to think it was a heat seeker, but they didn't seem completely certain and I was never sure. Do you think it was supposed to be the predator weaponry, or was it really supposed to be a heat seeker? The predator could have brought them down, then the guerillas found them soon after while they were still stunned, or they could have been injured in the crash in which case the guerrillas could have taken their time getting there. So I could never figure out whether Fox meant for it to be a real heatseaker or pred weapons.
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Prezes
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Posted on: 2002-10-04 06:04
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I never really thought about it.
I guess it was the plasma cannon. The pilots would have seen the streak of the plasma coming towards them and think it was an IR missile (they wouldn't have had any reason to this it was an alien creatures weapon). Therefore before crashing the would have radioed to base saying the have been shot down by an IR missle and request help.
But thats what I've come up with...
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NiteStalker
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Posted on: 2002-10-05 00:04
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good question. it probably would've been the pred, though, cos the guerillas were pretty low-tech and underfunded from the looks, and i seriously doubt they would have a lock-on missile of any sort except the very basic ones, which would have been easily avoided by a trained, proffessional, veteran pilot.
BUT, transport choppers are slow and clumsy, so it would be difficult to dodge with. and the guerillas could have stolen weaons from troopers or a nearby weapons dump.
in other words, i dont have a clue.
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TheBlackCat
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Posted on: 2002-10-06 00:05
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Also, remember that the guerrilas were being supplied by the soviets, that was the problem in the first place. So they could have had anything the russians had, which would have been state-of-the-art. But they might not have had really high tech stuff, on the other hand. That is where the problem lies, for me. I don't see any clear indication either way.
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NiteStalker
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Posted on: 2002-10-08 02:58
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my thoughts exactly. it wasn't supposed to be figured out, anyway - its a mystery. and i doubt the writers even decided themselves.
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SirYawnalot
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Posted on: 2002-10-08 03:58
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I'd say it was the guerillas-- their advanced weaponary was why they were a problem in the first place, as someone else said.
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Seikken53
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Posted on: 2002-10-08 18:04
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i really should watch these movies  i've only seen alien, and i saw alien resurection when i was 3... or 5
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Shrike
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Posted on: 2002-11-20 20:08
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I go for the rebel idea. They recognized the wounds as corterized on Venturas body imediatly, sayign that there were no powder burns. If the SC took out the choper it would be melted not blown apart, it is plasma after all, and plasme is HOT.
In my opion anyways. =D
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killadutch
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Posted on: 2002-11-21 21:43
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| I go for the rebel idea. They recognized the wounds as corterized on Venturas body imediatly, sayign that there were no powder burns. If the SC took out the choper it would be melted not blown apart, it is plasma after all, and plasme is HOT.
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Yaaaaaa...... but choppers's do have fuel tanks. And don't forget that the predator's have extremely advanced weaponry, they can probably set their plasma casters to different levels. Liek when the pred was firing wildly at Dutch when he was in the trees, those were pretty big explosions.
Anywayz, it is anyone's guess, although I'll go with the pred idea 
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Cliff
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Posted on: 2002-11-22 14:19
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Well if you go by the games then Preds can set their PCs. In predator (movie) there is only one scene that shows any proof of this and it is when they are running towards the chopper and the pred shoots the gun out of Dutchs hand (normally the blast would have taken his hand and the gun away). The preds do have the ability to set the size of the PCs blast and set the strenght of the aiming laser so the PC woudn't be a problem.
As far as I can see the only reason they aren't so sure that if was a heat seeker was because they didn't didn't thing the guerilas had that tech not because something looked strange.
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Skar'ku_Mar'kel-ja
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Posted on: 2003-01-27 00:04
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I'll have to go with cliff on this one. after all ive never heard of pred being able to set the explostion rate of plasma. after all it s really dangerous stuff. 
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TheBlackCat
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Posted on: 2003-01-27 15:58
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In predator 2 the predator had a normal version of the plasma that would just cut through things, and a powerful version that caused a large explosion . I've only ever seen these 2 versions of the plasma caster in the in the movies or comics (there is also the rifles and scatterguns in the comics, but those are a different story). he regular version, however, could possibly have caused the effect they saw, but the fact that it "reamed the heck out of him" sort of indicates shrapnel, which would have to be a missile.
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killadutch
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Posted on: 2003-01-27 20:01
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"Whatever hit it stripped the shit out of it."
Hmmmmm. My first impresion when this thread started was that it was the predator. But there is evidence against, as well as for.
I guess i have no idea, and no one really does. Just guesses.
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Skar'ku_Mar'kel-ja
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Posted on: 2003-01-27 23:38
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Yeh i suppose your right it would be all gues work i suppose
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Q-ball
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Posted on: 2003-03-25 15:50
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well i have 2 theroys well the 1 is it was obviously the predator but the other less so convincing is that the terrorist had that helicopter maybe they used that to bring it down
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SirYawnalot
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Posted on: 2003-03-25 19:51
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Well the biggest bit of evidence pointing towards the guerillas bringing down the chopper must be that there were hostages taken. I think if the Pred had taken down the chopper, it's fairly unlikely it would have let anyone get away, whereas if it was the guerillas they'd immediately have set about the task of searching for survivors, not giving the Pred enough time to go and investigate. Also, human technology posesses explosives that can be shot into the air and then explode to barrage aircraft with shrapnel (accounting for why the chopper didn't just blow up), whereas a plasmacaster shot capable of bringing down the chopper would probably have blown it apart.
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TheBlackCat
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Posted on: 2003-03-25 21:39
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The hostage thing occured to me, but the pred might just have shot down the chopper, and left the unconcious soldiers behind, either because they were not a threat or so that more soldiers could be lured there and be killed. The guerrilas then came and found the wrecked chopper, and captured the soldiers.
The pred's plasma caster seemed to have 2 levels of power, one which created ventura's wound, which was at least on a similar level to the pilot's wound and probably would not have destroyed the copter, and the other is the high-explosive shot that the pred tried to use against dutch after he shot it with the explosive arrow. The pred in pred 2 seemed to have 2 similar modes, as well as the less powerful back-up plasma caster on his arm.
I agree it is probably was geurrilas, but I still am not completely sure.
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Q-ball
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Posted on: 2003-03-26 13:05
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ive just thourght drop all this it was the pred due to the fact the way the blood was on the walls of the choper
& the markings left but maybe he brought shot it there were survivors & the gurilas caught them
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