A pred killing not armed civillians?
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A friend of mine from Sweden has that same theory about the Preds! He actually models his gameplay after it. Makes sense to me, except for one thing...Samurai were part of a feudal system, their purpose to protect the lord they were bound to and their property. I'm not sure there's as much centrality in Pred society...and the Samurai weren't really hunters in any way.
I don't know a whole helluva lot about Klingon anything. Though I vaguely remember both they and the Vikings having a big fixation on glory and reputation.
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As to klingons, I can tell you that I've studied Viking culture alot, and there are alot of similarities. The worst of both cultures is a battle hungry pirate (such as the Vikings are typically portrayed, as well as most of the earlier Kingons, from the original series) and the pinnacle of both cultures is a proud, accomplished hero of a warrior (many of the Viking heroes aren't all that different from Worf or Martok)
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In The book AvP: Hunters Planet the predators work well as a military group so perhaps the Samurai thing could fit in there. The preds also have a homeworld and in my opinion is only seen as nomadic because they hunt on various worlds and I don't see how they would be able to go home after every hunt.
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They have most if not all the novels, some graphic novels, etc...
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I feel we got some indications of pred code of honor in pred 2, such as not killing the kid or the pregnant woman, and also where the pred clan leader allowed glover to live and gave him a reward for winning the battle.
But yes, some of the comics definitely go much deeper into the pred culture, especially the AvP comics. The batman vs pred comics also tend to go a bit deeper than the average pred comic into culture, but not too deep (actually they are at a similar level to pred 2 culture-wise, especially the first one).
I think the pred "honor" code is more of a way to judge how valuable your kill is. It seems the pred culture, pred status, is based on your kills. The tougher the kill, the higher its value. So a killing tough foe, or killing a foe using weapons that are judged to be "inferior" to the weapon your foe is using (such as wrist blades or a spear against a machine-gun) both get you a lot of points. Killing a foe with a far superior weapon (such as a plasma rifle versus a pocketknife) would either not count much or even count against you. Matching a foe's weapon like the pred seemed to do a lot in pred 1 seems to be the "normal" thing to do, and against tough foes like us special forces the tough foe part comes into play, making it an honorable kill. Even in pred 1 dutch noticed the pred was only killing tough targets. Rember, you can't raise your rank if your dead, its probably unrealistic to expect pred honor to go to such an extent that the pred is likely going to die. This whole fighting tough foes and sparing weak ones seems to be the real core of the pred honor system. There are some other rules that have come up but really that seems to be the core of it. I know what the preds do would not be considered "honorable" in our culture, but that seems to me to be the best way to describe how they operate. And I think it is possible for a pred to kill an unarmed civilian if that civilian is really tough. The pred, of course, would kill using hand-to-hand combat only, but I think it is perfectly acceptable for a pred to do that. The whole matching weapons would still have to apply, and it would still have to be a tough opponent (maybe a football player ,or a boxer like in batman vs pred).
You can order almost all the comics and trade paperbacks from www.tfaw.com, that is the official online seller for Dark Horse Comics (the company that made all the alien and predator comics). I probably got 1/3-1/2 my comics from them. The rest of the comics I got from a couple local comic books stores and the rest of the trade paperbacks I got from local bookstores and amazon.com Amazon.com does not carry comics, only a few of the trade paperbacks (which are collections of comics). TFAW carries almost everything, but the trade paperbacks tend to be a bit more expensive (amazon.com has the discount). www.darkhorse.com will automatically add comics to your shopping card at tfaw when you click on the "buy now" button at the bottom of each comic page. Go here for an (almost) complete list of pred comics, and here for an (almost) complete list of aliens comics. A few crossovers are not listed in that directory, do a search for them at TFAW. The problem with this all is shipping. If you are just starting out, you are probably better off getting comics from a local comic book store. All the stores in my area carry aliens and predator comics, so yours probably do too.
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"When it (yuatja) joins a hunt, it wants to keep the fight real, but not to real."
in other words, it tries to even it out so that the opponent has a chance, but not a big one. hows that for sportsmanship, huh?
preds have a different perspective from us. their idea of honour is different from ours. If something is a threat, it is a worthy opponent. if its not a threat, leave it. armed or unarmed is nthing - a black-belt 9th degree martial artist could kill someone with a single hit or kick if they wanted. without weapons. he is unarmed, but definitely a threat. in that case, the pred woud probably engage in hand-to-hand combat, unarmed, for a very honourable trophy. a Green Beret sniper with a state-of-the-art sniper rifle, that is dangerous. the pred would probably cloak and snipe. dishonourable? mayber from our point of view, but isnt it basically what that sniper was doing - hiding and sniping? fair enough. they like to make it seem even, while giving the opponent the smallest chance possible without it being zero.
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